Were never crippled or maimed by HYS, wulin would have more martial arts experts then, I wonder how would this affect the novel?
Just a thought
Just a thought
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If only the crippled disciples of HYS.....
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The Smiling, Proud Wanderer 2017 《笑傲江湖》 Ding Guan Sen, Xue Hao Jing
Thread reserved. Updates to come.
Cast:
Ding Guan Sen
Xue Hao Jing
Cast:
Ding Guan Sen
Xue Hao Jing
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Hello SPCNET TV Forums
Hello SPCNET TV Forums
I am newbie here, thanks for the warm welcome in advance..
Regard
Lisa
I am newbie here, thanks for the warm welcome in advance..
Regard
Lisa
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Authors like Jin Yong with novels that would make great TV series?
I LOVE these Jin Yong TV shows the most. For me, these have the best plot and everything (Action, Kung Fu, etc) was really happy with Legend Of Condor Heroes 2017.
Now, my question is, what authors have written novels that's like Jin Yong's work? I don't imagine there are anyone else that can come CLOSE to Jin Yong, but at least somewhat good as Jin Yong, maybe 50-70% of JY's level?
If there are authors like JY, then who are these people? Which TV series are made already from these novels? Which TV series are in the works?
Also, I am kinda surprised the fandom of Jin Yong works in China hasn't gotten to the level that of Star Wars like in America. So many remakes, but there aren't any annual conventions, huge merchandises, or anything like that.
Now, my question is, what authors have written novels that's like Jin Yong's work? I don't imagine there are anyone else that can come CLOSE to Jin Yong, but at least somewhat good as Jin Yong, maybe 50-70% of JY's level?
If there are authors like JY, then who are these people? Which TV series are made already from these novels? Which TV series are in the works?
Also, I am kinda surprised the fandom of Jin Yong works in China hasn't gotten to the level that of Star Wars like in America. So many remakes, but there aren't any annual conventions, huge merchandises, or anything like that.
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Candle in The Tomb (2017) - Mojin the Lost Legends movie prequel
First time I'm watching 2 series at the same time: CitT and 3L3W.
Two types of works I like seeing: Chinese archeology, anything to do with ROCH, but the production quality has to be good.
I only got 7 episodes left and I only started it last week. Def addicting!
Not watching this for Joe Chen. I care not for familiar faces nor famous ppl, only works with high production values...
Two types of works I like seeing: Chinese archeology, anything to do with ROCH, but the production quality has to be good.
I only got 7 episodes left and I only started it last week. Def addicting!
Not watching this for Joe Chen. I care not for familiar faces nor famous ppl, only works with high production values...
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how strong was Cheng Ling Su in the Flying Fox Snow Mountain?
How strong was she?
if you compare to any of the female fighters in the Condor Trilogy? Who is on the same level as CLS in terms of martial arts?
I know for sure She is smarter than Huang Rong.
if you compare to any of the female fighters in the Condor Trilogy? Who is on the same level as CLS in terms of martial arts?
I know for sure She is smarter than Huang Rong.
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Best Martial Arts Era
Anyone noticed that in Jin Yong universe, the Song Dynasty and Yuan Dynasty era had the best top elites? There was Qiao Feng, Duan Yu, Xu Zhu, Hong Qigong, Huang Yaoshi, Ouyang Feng, Wang Chongyang. While during the Ming Dynasty all the experts martial arts quality dropped terribly.
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What Happened To Ming Cult
After Zhu Yuanzhang overthrew the Yuan Dynasty what happened to Ming Cult? I read somewhere that Holy Moon Cult Sect is related to Ming Cult. Could it be Zhang Wuji founded Holy Sun Moon Cult to watch over Zhu Yuanzhang?
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Huodu
We all know Huodu is a Mongol Prince. But any idea who is his father? Was it Kublai?
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Aaron Kwok 51,has wed model 22 years his junior Moka Fang, 29
Aaron Kwok is off the most eligible bachelors list - at 51, Hong Kong singer and actor has wed model 22 years his junior
The last of Canto-pops Four Heavenly Kings to marry, Kwok dated a string of starlets before announcing his relationship with Shanghai model Moka Fang, 29, in 2015
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The singer wed Fang on Tuesday in a private ceremony attended by close relatives at the citys Peninsula hotel.
Kwok, 51, had announced his relationship with Fang, 29, on Weibo Chinas answer to Twitter in December 2015.
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And on Tuesday he shared on his Weibo account a pre-wedding portrait of himself and Fang taken by acclaimed Hong Kong photographer and filmmaker Wing Shya.
Apple Daily reported that The Peninsula was heavily guarded during the afternoon ceremony and that the couple hosted a 10-table banquet after their wedding.
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Kwok rose to fame in the 1990s as one of Hong Kongs Four Heavenly Kings alongside Jacky Cheung Hok-yau, Andy Lau Tak-wah and Leon Lai Ming and is the last of the four to get married.
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In the past he has dated a string of starlets including Christy Chung, Athena Chu, Amanda Strang, Lynn Hung and Norika Fujiwara.
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The last of Canto-pops Four Heavenly Kings to marry, Kwok dated a string of starlets before announcing his relationship with Shanghai model Moka Fang, 29, in 2015
The singer wed Fang on Tuesday in a private ceremony attended by close relatives at the citys Peninsula hotel.
Kwok, 51, had announced his relationship with Fang, 29, on Weibo Chinas answer to Twitter in December 2015.
And on Tuesday he shared on his Weibo account a pre-wedding portrait of himself and Fang taken by acclaimed Hong Kong photographer and filmmaker Wing Shya.
Apple Daily reported that The Peninsula was heavily guarded during the afternoon ceremony and that the couple hosted a 10-table banquet after their wedding.
Kwok rose to fame in the 1990s as one of Hong Kongs Four Heavenly Kings alongside Jacky Cheung Hok-yau, Andy Lau Tak-wah and Leon Lai Ming and is the last of the four to get married.
In the past he has dated a string of starlets including Christy Chung, Athena Chu, Amanda Strang, Lynn Hung and Norika Fujiwara.
aaron-kwok-most-eligible-bachelors-list-51-hong-kong-singer-and-actor
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Hua Xin Shi 《画心师》 2017 : Zhu Xu Dan, Xióng Zǐqí, Li Junchen, Bao Tianqi, Fang Xiaoxi
Hua Xin Shi 《画心师》 2017
Zhu Xu Dan 祝绪丹
Xióng Zǐqí 熊梓淇
Li Junchen 李俊辰
Bao Tianqi 鲍天琦
Fang Xiaoxi 方小熙
Shao Meiqi 邵美琪
Hé Zhonghua 何中华
Type - fantasy
Producer - Zhang Tao
Online Video Playing Platform - Sohu Video
Art Director - Zhong Zhipeng
Production Director - Lin Guohua
Production area - mainland China
Location - Hengdian
Screenplay - Wang Wentong
Production time - 2016 years
http://baike.baidu.com/ /%E7%94%BB%E...%B8% /20140650
Hua Xin Shi 画心师 is a Sohu web series about the struggle between two opposing schools of thought. Hua Xin Shi are those that collect the pure sentiments of people after they learn to let go of their obsession. Yang Xin Shi are those who collect the impure thoughts of people consumed by their own insecurities.
http://www.dramapanda.com/2017/03/hua-xin-shi.html
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links actresses @ actors on weibo
网剧画心师
置顶 #网剧画心师# 大道相争，欲念不散，世事烦扰犹心乱。正邪善恶一念间，谁人知晓其因缘。画心化念一笔尽，世间 百态墨中观。@林健龍 @华哥lam @-薛文华 @经理人苹果 @CUC王文通 @百鹿影业 @祝绪丹Bambi @SpeXial-Dylan熊梓淇 @鲍天琦 @李俊辰Chen @孫博豪ParkhoS @演员邱浩轩 @Cookie_张雅涵 @赵菲 @方小熙Jennifer @黄天崎 L《画心师》摄心念版预告收起全文d
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Why didn't Xie Xun tell ZWJ about Zhou's treachery after they've recovered?
Xie Xun practically knew about Zhou's treachery from the beginning and I can understand him not wanting to tell ZWJ while they both were recovering. However, one thing doesn't make sense. Why didn't Xie Xun exposed Zhou's treachery after they have completely recovered and gained back their internal strength?
A flaw on Jin Yong's part when it came to this part?
A flaw on Jin Yong's part when it came to this part?
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Old version LOCH novel
I read the new version that jinyong amended for a number of times but am interested to know where can I find and read the old version with 秦南琴 as yang guo mother?
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Does everyone hate Audit?
Sorry to be posting this here, this is rather a boring topic that I myself doesn't want to talk about because I hate audits :D but I really need some recommendations since this is a work related question. Preparing for an audit can be very draining but there are automated solutions that can help through the process of managing and tracking the audits. Can we really automate the whole audit process? Is this so called automatic audit management useful and reliable?
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DFBB < ROCH Greats Evidence: JY
I have always been debating how good was DFBB? Could he/she be better than ROCH Greats? Better than Xiao Feng? The feats that DFBB accomplished in SPW were insane. However, I think DFBB cannot defeat the Greats, as JY's intention.
I need someone to pull out the exact excerpt, but in SPW, we had LHC and RWX taking on each other in sword skills. LHC's DG9J was winning, but RWX's roar based on internal energy knocked him out. In other words, even in SPW the novel itself, JY wanted to make it clear that internal energy is the most important thing. I always thought SPW was a novel in which JY finally deviated from his "internal energy > all", but apparently this wasn't the case.
In TLBB, XZ and YTZ both went from nobodies to elite fighters after receiving internal boost. There was no mention about MRF's internal, and he was always at the losing end against top tier fighters. You had to have insane amount of internal before you could learn the top skill-6MSJ. The other top skill was an internal energy skill.
In LOCH, the coveted skill was...well, 9Yin, an internal energy skill. OYK wasn't taught the Toad Stance because OYF deemed that OYK lacked sufficient internal energy. We saw how not one, but two Greats, could be "held" by a new rising hero if internal energy are not used. The number 1 declared and continually stayed revered by everyone in the novel, WCY, was known for his XTG, an internal energy skill. GJ saw improvement in his skills by leaps and bound after he understood how to unlock his internal energy.
In ROCH, we have the ice bed, we saw YG focused so much on internal energy. We saw GWM doubled his internal energy.
In HSDS, ZWJ owed his life to an internal energy skill. Also, insufficient internal energy=no QKDNY, the uber hax skill in HSDS (till 9yin). Like LOCH, this novel was centered around an internal energy-9 Yang.
And in all the novels-TLBB, LOCH, ROCH and HSDS, having a lot of internal energy was always a sure way to impress people. For instance, in TLBB, XF was impressed by DY being able to force wine out from his fingertips even without fighting (and XF is not some country bumpkin who gets easily impressed). In HSDS, when ZM brought her army to Wudang, YTZ was overwhelmed by the lackey's internal energy.
So in conclusion, I think JY is pretty clear-internal energy=most important thing.
There might be one small flaw to point out however. FZ was versed in YJJ and RWX could hold his own against FZ. One way to reconcile this was that the YJJ in SPW was not the same as that in TLBB (this is something I think we all agreed, else FZ would easily be number 1, but he wasn't).
The best fighter in SPW, was actually someone with great internal energy-Lin Yuan Tu. Now, we know he was from Shaolin origin and tasked with the job to bring back KHBD. I really don't see Shaolin sending out a weak fighter for such a task, so LYT was definitely a strong fighter, to say the least. I would reckon that he had a good/above base of internal energy, even if it wasn't named (remember, we have no idea what XF has either). So with that and KHBD/BXJF, LYT was able to become the best fighter, created an armed escort agency that was feared.
Now this makes sense too. DFBB himself/herself had a decent internal energy as well. DFBB was number 3 in Sun Moon Cult during RWX's reign. I think it is fair to say DFBB was at least just marginally weaker than XWT (on the basis that RWX taught XWT more). However, DFBB was very ambitious and likely could had been on par with XWT by training even harder.
Point-DFBB was the best in SPW not only because he/she had KHBD-he/she also had a good internal energy base. Any fighter worth his/her salt needs strong internal energy.
Now we compare SPW against the Condor trilogy and/or TLBB. There is zero indication that the internal energy cultivation level was anywhere near that of the trilogy or TLBB.
Conclusion: DFBB won't beat Trilogy Greats.
I need someone to pull out the exact excerpt, but in SPW, we had LHC and RWX taking on each other in sword skills. LHC's DG9J was winning, but RWX's roar based on internal energy knocked him out. In other words, even in SPW the novel itself, JY wanted to make it clear that internal energy is the most important thing. I always thought SPW was a novel in which JY finally deviated from his "internal energy > all", but apparently this wasn't the case.
In TLBB, XZ and YTZ both went from nobodies to elite fighters after receiving internal boost. There was no mention about MRF's internal, and he was always at the losing end against top tier fighters. You had to have insane amount of internal before you could learn the top skill-6MSJ. The other top skill was an internal energy skill.
In LOCH, the coveted skill was...well, 9Yin, an internal energy skill. OYK wasn't taught the Toad Stance because OYF deemed that OYK lacked sufficient internal energy. We saw how not one, but two Greats, could be "held" by a new rising hero if internal energy are not used. The number 1 declared and continually stayed revered by everyone in the novel, WCY, was known for his XTG, an internal energy skill. GJ saw improvement in his skills by leaps and bound after he understood how to unlock his internal energy.
In ROCH, we have the ice bed, we saw YG focused so much on internal energy. We saw GWM doubled his internal energy.
In HSDS, ZWJ owed his life to an internal energy skill. Also, insufficient internal energy=no QKDNY, the uber hax skill in HSDS (till 9yin). Like LOCH, this novel was centered around an internal energy-9 Yang.
And in all the novels-TLBB, LOCH, ROCH and HSDS, having a lot of internal energy was always a sure way to impress people. For instance, in TLBB, XF was impressed by DY being able to force wine out from his fingertips even without fighting (and XF is not some country bumpkin who gets easily impressed). In HSDS, when ZM brought her army to Wudang, YTZ was overwhelmed by the lackey's internal energy.
So in conclusion, I think JY is pretty clear-internal energy=most important thing.
There might be one small flaw to point out however. FZ was versed in YJJ and RWX could hold his own against FZ. One way to reconcile this was that the YJJ in SPW was not the same as that in TLBB (this is something I think we all agreed, else FZ would easily be number 1, but he wasn't).
The best fighter in SPW, was actually someone with great internal energy-Lin Yuan Tu. Now, we know he was from Shaolin origin and tasked with the job to bring back KHBD. I really don't see Shaolin sending out a weak fighter for such a task, so LYT was definitely a strong fighter, to say the least. I would reckon that he had a good/above base of internal energy, even if it wasn't named (remember, we have no idea what XF has either). So with that and KHBD/BXJF, LYT was able to become the best fighter, created an armed escort agency that was feared.
Now this makes sense too. DFBB himself/herself had a decent internal energy as well. DFBB was number 3 in Sun Moon Cult during RWX's reign. I think it is fair to say DFBB was at least just marginally weaker than XWT (on the basis that RWX taught XWT more). However, DFBB was very ambitious and likely could had been on par with XWT by training even harder.
Point-DFBB was the best in SPW not only because he/she had KHBD-he/she also had a good internal energy base. Any fighter worth his/her salt needs strong internal energy.
Now we compare SPW against the Condor trilogy and/or TLBB. There is zero indication that the internal energy cultivation level was anywhere near that of the trilogy or TLBB.
Conclusion: DFBB won't beat Trilogy Greats.
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TVB actor Raymond Tsang Sau Ming dies (58歲曾守明登台暈倒 搶救無效)
58歲曾守明登台暈倒 搶救無效
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香港資深演員曾守明入行超過30年，演過百部電視劇，被封為綠葉王，不過今(23日)晨卻 傳出，他在廣 州登台時暈倒，送醫急救仍無效，享年58歲。
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曾守明平時喜愛玩車，他的車友在通訊軟體群組傳出他的死訊，友人表示收到消息，他在廣州登台期 間暈倒，藝人 黃建東也在面書證實死訊，他回覆港媒：同事之間傳來訊息，聽說他今晚在廣州登台唱了半首歌然 後暈倒，送到 醫院搶救一個小時后便走了。
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曾守明因外貌正氣，並曾任職輔警多年，因此出演最多的就是和警察有關的角色，除了戲劇他也參與 不少電影演出 ，其中最令人印象深刻的，就是在周星馳電影《國產凌凌漆》中，飾演持槍悍匪湖南仔一角。
身形一向高大圓潤的他，前年因心臟血管出問題而暴瘦，曾休息3個月，接受手術休養后復工，前幾 天友人餐廳開 張，他還現身力挺，當時精神不錯，未料才幾天就發生憾事，令外界相當震驚。
假警察真輔警
曾守明在無線服務三十年，曾任輔警，又加入皇家香港軍團(義勇軍)。1991年，曾守明加入皇 家香港軍團 (義勇軍)，97年投考香港輔助警察隊，成為輔警，2013年退休，時任行政長官梁振英更頒授 香港輔助警 察長期服務獎章予曾守明，以表揚其貢獻。
曾守明初出道時不時演湖南仔(《國產凌凌漆》)、越南仔(《他來自江湖》)等，或者江湖蠱惑仔 之類，后來因 其形象正氣，于是被改戲路專演警察，幾乎各職級不同崗位都做過。
曾跟曾守明合入無線劇集《飛虎II》的馬德鐘，今日接受《蘋果》電話訪問時說：聽到守明的消 息，非常突然 ，很不開心，大家合作過《飛虎》，他做過輔警，我做過警察，大家在槍械上有很多交流，他是一個 專業演員，非 常守時，好遵守工作守則，人亦開朗。他還很熟悉汽車，幫我很多，早前聽說他激瘦，也在晚宴碰見 過他，我有問 候他身體有沒有問題，他還很健康地答我：病好了，有心，謝謝。今天聽到這個消息，我當然是不開 心，最不開心 還是他家人，希望他們可以節哀順變。
根據維基整合的資料，曾守明警察角色(包括古裝)包括:
2003年《非常外父》 警察局探長
2004年《天涯俠醫》 懲教處職員
2007年《學警出更》 警察機動部隊教官
2007年《迎妻接福》 黃捕頭
2009年《學警狙擊》 行山隊警長
2010年 《讀心神探》 前懲教署領犬員
2010年《囧探查過界》重案組
2011年《點解阿Sir係阿Sir》 重案組警長
2011年《潛行狙擊》 前臥底探員、梁笑棠之前上司
2012年《肥婆奶奶扭計媳》 重案組
2012年《飛虎》 飛虎隊
2012年《法網狙擊》 黃Sir
2013年《初五啟市錄》 治安廳隊長
2013年《貓屎媽媽》 CID
2013年《神鎗狙擊》飛虎隊
2014年《叛逃》 行動組教官總督察
2014年《飛虎II》 署理警長 / 飛虎隊
2016年《鐵馬戰車》E&C警長
2016年《殭》飛虎隊
★電影:
1987年 《人民英雄》 飛虎隊成員
1996年《衝鋒隊怒火街頭》國際刑警督察
2004年《大事件》軍裝警員
58歲曾守明登台暈倒-搶救無效
香港資深演員曾守明入行超過30年，演過百部電視劇，被封為綠葉王，不過今(23日)晨卻 傳出，他在廣 州登台時暈倒，送醫急救仍無效，享年58歲。
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曾守明平時喜愛玩車，他的車友在通訊軟體群組傳出他的死訊，友人表示收到消息，他在廣州登台期 間暈倒，藝人 黃建東也在面書證實死訊，他回覆港媒：同事之間傳來訊息，聽說他今晚在廣州登台唱了半首歌然 後暈倒，送到 醫院搶救一個小時后便走了。
曾守明因外貌正氣，並曾任職輔警多年，因此出演最多的就是和警察有關的角色，除了戲劇他也參與 不少電影演出 ，其中最令人印象深刻的，就是在周星馳電影《國產凌凌漆》中，飾演持槍悍匪湖南仔一角。
身形一向高大圓潤的他，前年因心臟血管出問題而暴瘦，曾休息3個月，接受手術休養后復工，前幾 天友人餐廳開 張，他還現身力挺，當時精神不錯，未料才幾天就發生憾事，令外界相當震驚。
假警察真輔警
曾守明在無線服務三十年，曾任輔警，又加入皇家香港軍團(義勇軍)。1991年，曾守明加入皇 家香港軍團 (義勇軍)，97年投考香港輔助警察隊，成為輔警，2013年退休，時任行政長官梁振英更頒授 香港輔助警 察長期服務獎章予曾守明，以表揚其貢獻。
曾守明初出道時不時演湖南仔(《國產凌凌漆》)、越南仔(《他來自江湖》)等，或者江湖蠱惑仔 之類，后來因 其形象正氣，于是被改戲路專演警察，幾乎各職級不同崗位都做過。
曾跟曾守明合入無線劇集《飛虎II》的馬德鐘，今日接受《蘋果》電話訪問時說：聽到守明的消 息，非常突然 ，很不開心，大家合作過《飛虎》，他做過輔警，我做過警察，大家在槍械上有很多交流，他是一個 專業演員，非 常守時，好遵守工作守則，人亦開朗。他還很熟悉汽車，幫我很多，早前聽說他激瘦，也在晚宴碰見 過他，我有問 候他身體有沒有問題，他還很健康地答我：病好了，有心，謝謝。今天聽到這個消息，我當然是不開 心，最不開心 還是他家人，希望他們可以節哀順變。
根據維基整合的資料，曾守明警察角色(包括古裝)包括:
2003年《非常外父》 警察局探長
2004年《天涯俠醫》 懲教處職員
2007年《學警出更》 警察機動部隊教官
2007年《迎妻接福》 黃捕頭
2009年《學警狙擊》 行山隊警長
2010年 《讀心神探》 前懲教署領犬員
2010年《囧探查過界》重案組
2011年《點解阿Sir係阿Sir》 重案組警長
2011年《潛行狙擊》 前臥底探員、梁笑棠之前上司
2012年《肥婆奶奶扭計媳》 重案組
2012年《飛虎》 飛虎隊
2012年《法網狙擊》 黃Sir
2013年《初五啟市錄》 治安廳隊長
2013年《貓屎媽媽》 CID
2013年《神鎗狙擊》飛虎隊
2014年《叛逃》 行動組教官總督察
2014年《飛虎II》 署理警長 / 飛虎隊
2016年《鐵馬戰車》E&C警長
2016年《殭》飛虎隊
★電影:
1987年 《人民英雄》 飛虎隊成員
1996年《衝鋒隊怒火街頭》國際刑警督察
2004年《大事件》軍裝警員
58歲曾守明登台暈倒-搶救無效
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The New Divine Eagle and the Heroic Couple - 新神雕侠侣
The New Divine Eagle and the Heroic Couple - 新神雕侠侣 fan fiction is an adaptation of Jin Yong's The Return of the Condor Heroes. Special thanks to Rong'er for sharing me some valuable information to help me get started.
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Xuanming Divine Palm'
ZSF once said that the Xuanming Divine Palm is a powerful skill that has been extinct for over a hundred years. Any idea who created it? Would it be as powerful as Melancholic Palm? Since it probably existed during that same era
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If you could ask Jinyong one question on any 1 on 1 fight
Let's say you get to ask Jin Yong himself on the result of a 1 on 1 fight between any 2 characters.
He would answer 'truthfully' according to 'canon'. He would give an absolute answer, whether A or B is stronger, or they are equally strong and would both perish in a fight to death. He won't elaborate much but would simply tell you who will win.
There is only one chance...
Which comparison result would you be most interested to know?
Which would be the greatest mystery in JY universe that you would want to "solve"?
1. Sweeper Monk VS Dugu Qiubai?
2. Guo Jing VS Yang Guo?
3. DFBB VS Feng Qing Yang?
4. Zhang San Feng VS Zhang Wu Ji?
Or perhaps a battle to provide a 'link' across novels and resolve all future cross-novel comparisons?
1. DFBB VS Xiao Feng?
2. Guo Jing VS Xiao Feng?
3. Linghu Chong VS Xiao Long Nu?
He would answer 'truthfully' according to 'canon'. He would give an absolute answer, whether A or B is stronger, or they are equally strong and would both perish in a fight to death. He won't elaborate much but would simply tell you who will win.
There is only one chance...
Which comparison result would you be most interested to know?
Which would be the greatest mystery in JY universe that you would want to "solve"?
1. Sweeper Monk VS Dugu Qiubai?
2. Guo Jing VS Yang Guo?
3. DFBB VS Feng Qing Yang?
4. Zhang San Feng VS Zhang Wu Ji?
Or perhaps a battle to provide a 'link' across novels and resolve all future cross-novel comparisons?
1. DFBB VS Xiao Feng?
2. Guo Jing VS Xiao Feng?
3. Linghu Chong VS Xiao Long Nu?
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SPW - SMILING PROUD WANDERER, and SPanner in the Works
Here at SPCNET, we often use "SPW" as a short designation for Jin Yong's story SMILING PROUD WANDERER. I think those same letters, in that order, can also describe the story as a "SPanner in the Works."
For those unfamiliar with the idiom, a spanner in the works is defined by Free Dictionary.com as "something that prevents a plan or activity from succeeding." In other words, a spanner in the works is something disruptive that causes a system to not operate correctly.
In terms of being part of the martial arts mythology of the Jin Yong wuxia universe, SPW (SMILING PROUD WANDERER) is indeed the SPW (spanner in the works) that causes an otherwise mostly sensible system of inter-story martial arts to just completely break down.
Let's imagine that SPW were removed from the Jin Yong canon. If we trace the characterization of martial arts through Jin Yong's major novels in chronological (storywise) order...DGSD, LOCH, ROCH, HSDS, CRIMSON SWORD, DOMD, B&S: G&R, and FFoSM, we see a gradual decline of martial arts ability. This is the so called "Deterioration Theory" that has sometimes been popular among fans.
The peak level of DGSD martial arts (e.g. the levels attained by the Janitor Monk and Hui Juk) are beyond the peak levels attained by the Greats of the CONDOR HEROES TRILOGY, and the CONDOR HEROES TRILOGY's best martial arts tower over those of the Qing Dynasty stories such as DOMD and B&S. Though the discrepancy of martial arts level from novel to novel varies, we can see a logical reverse evolution (devolution?) of martial arts from the Northern Sung Dynasty era of DGSD to the Qing Dynasty-era novels. It works.
But if you throw SPW in there, it REALLY screws things up. It doesn't just screw up the Deterioration Theory, but even just how Jin Yong wuxia martial arts in general work throughout the timeline, from novel to novel. SPW martial arts such as Qwai Fa Bo Deen, Dook Goo 9 Swords, Pik Che Sword Technique, and even the characterization of Shaolin's Yik Gun Ging (which doesn't quite square with its depiction in DGSD) JUST DON'T FIT with the way martial arts are characterized in other parts of the Jin Yong canon. Martial arts in SPW simply behave differently from how they behave in other Jin Yong stories, including even DGSD. It's almost as if SPW doesn't take place in the normal Jin Yong timeline at all, but exists in its own separate, pocket universe/parallel timeline where the rules are different from those of the normal Jin Yong universe where DGSD, the CONDOR HEROES TRILOGY, and the Qing Dynasty novels occur.
Taken on its own terms, SPW is a brilliant wuxia story, but if you try to slot it in comfortably with Jin Yong's other stories in how its martial arts are characterized, it really does throw a spanner in the works.
For those unfamiliar with the idiom, a spanner in the works is defined by Free Dictionary.com as "something that prevents a plan or activity from succeeding." In other words, a spanner in the works is something disruptive that causes a system to not operate correctly.
In terms of being part of the martial arts mythology of the Jin Yong wuxia universe, SPW (SMILING PROUD WANDERER) is indeed the SPW (spanner in the works) that causes an otherwise mostly sensible system of inter-story martial arts to just completely break down.
Let's imagine that SPW were removed from the Jin Yong canon. If we trace the characterization of martial arts through Jin Yong's major novels in chronological (storywise) order...DGSD, LOCH, ROCH, HSDS, CRIMSON SWORD, DOMD, B&S: G&R, and FFoSM, we see a gradual decline of martial arts ability. This is the so called "Deterioration Theory" that has sometimes been popular among fans.
The peak level of DGSD martial arts (e.g. the levels attained by the Janitor Monk and Hui Juk) are beyond the peak levels attained by the Greats of the CONDOR HEROES TRILOGY, and the CONDOR HEROES TRILOGY's best martial arts tower over those of the Qing Dynasty stories such as DOMD and B&S. Though the discrepancy of martial arts level from novel to novel varies, we can see a logical reverse evolution (devolution?) of martial arts from the Northern Sung Dynasty era of DGSD to the Qing Dynasty-era novels. It works.
But if you throw SPW in there, it REALLY screws things up. It doesn't just screw up the Deterioration Theory, but even just how Jin Yong wuxia martial arts in general work throughout the timeline, from novel to novel. SPW martial arts such as Qwai Fa Bo Deen, Dook Goo 9 Swords, Pik Che Sword Technique, and even the characterization of Shaolin's Yik Gun Ging (which doesn't quite square with its depiction in DGSD) JUST DON'T FIT with the way martial arts are characterized in other parts of the Jin Yong canon. Martial arts in SPW simply behave differently from how they behave in other Jin Yong stories, including even DGSD. It's almost as if SPW doesn't take place in the normal Jin Yong timeline at all, but exists in its own separate, pocket universe/parallel timeline where the rules are different from those of the normal Jin Yong universe where DGSD, the CONDOR HEROES TRILOGY, and the Qing Dynasty novels occur.
Taken on its own terms, SPW is a brilliant wuxia story, but if you try to slot it in comfortably with Jin Yong's other stories in how its martial arts are characterized, it really does throw a spanner in the works.
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